Tuesday, October 3, 2017

I'VE SEEN SOME TRULY 'SICK' STATEMENTS OVER THE YEARS

but this one takes the biscuit ... CBS have fired Haley Geftman-Gold, the networks now former Vice-President and senior counsel after she went feral on Monday night with a post on facebook that she felt no sympathy for the victims of the Sunday night massacre in Los Vegas because "country music fans are often Republicans".

Words quite fail me.   This lady is a lawyer for C********s.    I guess the only thing you can say in her defence is that she might have been egged on by Shillery's comment that Republicans were a "basket of deplorables".

The US political discourse doesn't have much to commend it but Haley Geftman-Gold seems determined to find new lows.

32 comments:

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Hillary Clinton wasted no time. Before the last of the wounded had died she was on air railing against the NRA and calling for tough gum control laws..

Someone forgot to tell her the automatic rifles already are illegal and con only be obtained on the black market.

That action on her part tells you precisely why she lost the presidential election.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

As more information becomes available the story line that the murderer simply 'snapped' gets a bit thin.

Over a considerable period he accumulated an arsenal of fully automatic and semi-automatic weapons and over 10,000 rounds of ammunition.

The bad news for the fanatical 'gun control lobby' is that most, if not all, of the weapons and such quantities of ammunition cannot be purchased legally, so no amount of huffing an puffing about law changes would have made the slightest difference.

ISIS seems very keen to insist he was one of theirs. Who knows? Arabs lie.

David said...

While Donald Trump signs an Executive Order mandating thoughts and prayers after every mass shootng, Australians enjoyed their 7827th day without dying in a mass shooting.

The Veteran said...

David ... your point? Whoops, sorry, clearly condemning this 'lady' ain't in your makeup.

Paranormal said...

So David, rather than question what it is that causes a society to produce people like this lady and the shooter, you want to make it about gun laws?

Clearly it is not about gun laws when the guns the shooter was using are illegal. Did you catch that - the shooter has already broken the law. Putting more laws in place for him to break is not the solution.

As for your idyllic Australian enclave of firearms safety, how does this gel: http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/scary-trend-in-australian-gun-crime-with-more-than-200-shooting-deaths-a-year/news-story/374b4e55fdbb1718079c36979245d50c

How can this be with the restrictive firearms law?????

Psycho Milt said...

This is why I use a pseudonym on social media. There's always people who think personal opinions you write as a private individual are your employer's business. Most of them are on Twitter and would be permanently banned from the Internet via some kind of microchipping process if we had any sense.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Woops


"....calling for tough gum control laws...."

Never a truer word typed by accident. Bumping her gums when she is not wanted.

David said...

para, gun deaths per 100,000

Australia 0.93

New Zealand 1.07

South Africa 8.3

USA 10.54

The Veteran said...

David ... and STIll no condemnation of the 'lady' in question!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Wonder why Troll Adolf is keen to disseminate fake news and tell us that Paddock's fire arms were illegal....Look up Nevada gun laws and you will see Assault rifles are legal and like Europe there are no borders between states/countries with different sets of laws.

The number of deaths in mass shootings in the US by white Christians has far surpassed ALL the the European/UK/US deaths by brown Muslims...spot my deliberate mistake? They were no more Christian than the other lot represented Islam except in the warped mind of Adolf DLT.

Sobering reading from the Washington post......https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/mass-shootings-in-america/

If only Trump would stop trying to sound sincere. When he tries to be sincere he comes across as oily and unctuous. Unlike Obama who once broke down after a particularly awful shooting our Donny has the NRA as a fan base and has promised easing the gun laws..

Lord Egbut

Anonymous said...

Ah..this may explain Adolf DLT's stance.....it's his choice of reading matter that is to blame.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/02/las-vegas-shooting-facebook-google-fake-news-shooter

The Veteran said...

David ... your 3.36 pm post. reflecting on that. So the Martin Place shootings never happened!!!!! Your ability to selectively remember is truly astounding.

To others ... still waiting on your condemnation of the 'lady' in question. Sorry, clearly she's a Democrat so that makes it ok ... spew.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Legbut

You are peddling mendacious untruths. Automatic rifles are not legal, neither is the purchase of tens of thousands of rounds for same.

You have never let a few salient facts get in the way of a demented rant.

Anonymous said...

This weapon is perfectly legal as it's working parts have not been tampered with and each round is fired by the shooters finger as required by the law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Ws9qu4rs0

Lord Egbut

David said...

David ... and STIll no condemnation of the 'lady' in question!!!!!!!!

Vet, sorry, I didn't realise it was compulsory to pile on the condemnation. Her employer has done that. Half the world and his wife have also done that, I don't think my not joining in will make any difference.

When you write I guess the only thing you can say in her defence is that she might have been egged on by Shillery's comment that Republicans were a "basket of deplorables". you undermine your own condemnation. And you can't even get Clinton's words right, but lying is second nature on the Right.

David ... your 3.36 pm post. reflecting on that. So the Martin Place shootings never happened!!!!!

At what point have I ever said that? Martin Place resulted in one death by the criminal, two deaths by police, not sure how you see the two as comparable.

Go back to the figures above, they do not show Australia is free of gun violence, but that is far less prevalent then in the US OR NZ.

Number of Americans killed on battlefields in all wars in history:

1,396,733

Killed by firearms in the US since 1968:

1,516,863

Anonymous said...

I think that includes suicide

Anonymous said...

Veteran......At the end of the day it's just someones opinion, an opinion, like most of Trumps tweets, that is abhorrent however in the great scheme of things she represents no one but herself. There are a lot worse things said by people in power or should know better but for her and others to play the "them and us" card in a situation like this is beyond contempt.

When is the alt-right troll going to learn to debate without personal abuse......tell me about the legality of assault rifles again Adolf.

Lord Egbut

David said...

aNON @ 10:29

Yes, includes suicides, people shot by toddlers, and remarkably, people shot and killed by their dogs.

George said...

Sick sad commentators.
Nothing about those victims and their relatives.
Just more waffle about lighting candles and changing laws that the perp paid no attention to in amassing an entire illegal armory

Ciaron said...
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Ciaron said...

You may see it that way George, however, the repulsion expressed in response to the comment I'm actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are republican gun toters
does, in my estimation, show a concern and empathy for the victims and their families...

Quoted for Truth

Paranormal said...

David, your stats disprove your theory.

Why are Australian and NZ rates so close to be almost the same at 1 per 100,000, when the laws are so different? Particularly when you realise the majority of ours are from hunting accidents? Then when you add in the 13% increase in gun crime over the past year in the UK (42% in London alone http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-39578500 ) where they have had the harshest gun laws for decades.

Repressive gun laws are not the answer. It's a societal issue that putting a band aid of gun laws over will not fix.

Anonymous said...

George.....Do you have trouble reading the posts?.....the gun collection was LEGAL. He ticked all the boxes and gave no false information....this is the entire point of proper gun control.

Paranormal...There is nothing "harsh" about gun control. Most firearms offences in the UK are with stolen cut down shotguns. Getting hold of a pistol is difficult and if found in possession you are looking at ten years minimum. Statistics are pointless unless the variables are known and to compare the Honduras with Switzerland on the basis of population as the NRA are doing is as stupid as it is dishonest.

Assault rifles such as the the AK and AR have no place in a civilised society and those who lust after them usually have low self esteem and are looking for a prop.

Lord Egbut Nobacon

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Lebgut

When will you give up? Go and read the many references to 'fully automatic rifles' in this fellow's collection. He may have bought legal semi-automatic rifles but they were later converted to fully automatic.

Paranormal said...

Legbut, you are merely highlighting your own prejudices and ignorance.

If getting hold of a pistol is so difficult in the UK why is it that criminals have no problem hiring them for 'jobs'?

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Freudian slip.

Lebgut

Actually fits very well!

Anonymous said...

'Assault rifles such as the the AK and AR have no place in a civilised society and those who lust after them usually have low self esteem and are looking for a prop....'

This must be Frosty Friday when I concur with LB!
I get hunters wanting access to my property. If they turn up with one of those rambo rattle machines they get turned around at the gate. No ifs, buts or ballistic bull is entered into.

If they are that keen on rapid fire weapons there's a recruiting office somewhere near them.

Mick

Ciaron said...

There are many reasons why hunters prefer the AR setup. you can read about some of them here, or, you could try engaging Google on the subject....


Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Ciaron

Lebgut is at it again.

The AK47 is fully automatic and is an assault rifle, firing 7.62mm rounds.

The AR15 is semi automatic and is NOT an assault rifle, firing 5.56mm rounds.

Gerald said...

http://missoulian.com/news/local/las-vegas-shooter-had-device-sold-here-to-turn-assault/article_dffa818e-6812-599b-9239-4ae39febc761.html

Anonymous said...

Paranormal......In all societies the police and the criminal element have one thing in common, they both shoot at and sometimes kill criminals. Very rarely in the UK or in the EU do innocents get shot in the course of an armed robbery. The 'gun crime" that we are talking about here is predictable and containable but never will be preventable whatever legislation you put in place.

The gun crime we should be talking about is putting weapons of mass destruction into the hands of the general public. This man amassed an armoury of 40 firearms including including semi auto assault rifles. The argument whether they were converted legally or illegally to fire on automatic is of no consequence, if he couldn't buy them he couldn't convert them...end of story.

Two articles that should be read....http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/las-vegas-shooting-australia-gun-laws-control-stephen-paddock-2nd-amendment-nevada-firearm-a7980671.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/oct/02/america-mass-shootings-gun-violence

The article on Australia is very revealing. Oh, and the day Troll Adolf DLT can tell me anything about small arms is the day the devil is seen wearing an overcoat.

Lord Egbut

Anonymous said...

There is a postscript to this shooting. For those of the seriously injured who will need care, medication and surgery years after the event but do not have the necessary insurance will have Obamacare to thank.........unless Adolf stumps up and crowd funds it.

Lord Egbut